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Is the proposed Irish Junior Cup happening this year for 2nd XIs? If so does anyone know when the draw is being made?
This discussion has been intriguing but at the end of the day players are going to move clubs for many different reasons. Would I be angry if someone left my club after learning their trade there? Probably yes but not if they where moving on to bigger or better things.
Clubs are also going to approach players who they think will make a positive impact on their club. I personally have no issue with this either. It is hardly much of a crime to ask a player whether he wants to move or not. All he has to do is say no and then that is the argument.
On another note good to see the aghy back in the Irish Cup, albeit with a big road trip ahead.
McCullough
If you are doing a law degree then you should know the difference between slander and libel
I would be interested to learn how I have "slandered" the poster called "McCullough"? I have never heard of you before but I would challenge YOU to identify yourself & enlighten me as to where I have posted any inaccuracies. Maybe you have a wee bit to go before completing YOUR law degree!!
OK last word on the subject. Some are annoyed by anonymity. Some like Andy have a realistic solution. Bottom line is Andy Mccrea was concerned his coached players were being tapped for inducements. Are calls for moves ethically correct if a financial inducement is included? Is it right that ordinary players reap this financial reward? My take is that if you are looking for a local player that is prepared to put time and effort into bringing that club forward then that is a decision that a club and player must take but suggest that it is done openly. It’s up to each person/club’s conscience that a move is a beneficial one for all concerned (moving from and to). I would however look at the NW and say that it is an obviously touchy subject in an amateur sport that needs a formal solution and not a ‘you know nothing’ approach on forums. Maybe one for working groups. No offence to anyone is the intention here
Sorry Dazzler.
You fitted in so well I just assumed you were home-bred! However, I must have missed at least six. Sign of old age!
taito is pretty steady and sensible. these thengs are happening every day,.its just the prowlers want to act like old women again and bitch because of jealousy........as for andy kennedy. get your facts straight before my law gegree is finished.,,I would have have you for slander so easily...do be careful to check out your remarks before printing
Read a worrying headline on the ceefax last nite, England's Graham Swann reckons Test matches and T20 are the future for cricket and that he doesn't even enjoy the 50 over one day format of the sport anymore !
Hope he's in the minority with that one!
On the subject of players changing cricket clubs, I once tried a couple of different ones over the course of my career, but didn't last very long with either.
They even paid me a few quid and then told me ..." Please don't come back again Caleb !!
Taito did you receive money when you were at CI?
(another pinch of salt required maybe)
Re Dazzler
It actually does matter when you're trying to grow roots in an "amateur" club
Too many jumped up "local hero's" who actually think their world beaters (laughable) Maybe the IPL should check out the NCU for talent
Everybody has a valid point to the debate about players moving clubs (at least the ones who put there proper names to it!!) People will move to other clubs for whatever reason-ambition,money or incentives,"tapped up", re-location of job/country, no longer required at a higher level, misdermeanours!! It really doesnt matter because not everybody will be happy with someone moving from "their club" to another.
As someone who has moved for a few of the above reasons I understand a few of the arguments!!-wasnt kicked out from any club btw!!
Good luck to whoever- may it be a club or person who shows any ambition. Some clubs will win-some will lose, thats sport in this world we live in.
P.S Clarence, By my omission from your list I'm still waiting on a brown envelope from North Down!!!
The comments made by Clarence are valid but I respectfully suggest that the 80s were a different era to today's game in Northern Ireland and we are dealing with a different situation. There were more teams & more cricketers were being produced by schools. Presently, to which I alluded in an earlier posting, players are now being "produced" by the clubs through their own coaching schemes and I can see how it "sticks in the craw" to have other clubs with much vaunted youth development programmes having to sneak around behind backs. I firmly believe (and no-one has posted a disagreement) that any approach should be made through the clubs and this would give the opportunity to discuss the merits of the offer rather than a wee lad's head being turned with e.g. the offer of free car insurance or other financial inducement as against his future with his home club. My old granny used to have a saying about "far off fields" but I can't remember the rest of it!
So what exactly is the point that you are making? Every sport whether amateur or not will have people who move from club to club, for whatever reason. It might be for money it might be for the chance to win more trophies but if thats what they want to do fair play to them. With regards tapping, being from a country club i will say that when i was skipper i certainly contacted several people with regards the possibility of moving to us, i do not see the problem with this especially in the age where plenty of clubs have the money to spend this has to be done to try and continue to compete if the money isnt there. As we arent in the city and not in the premier league, we arent going to get new members very often without a bit of effort to get them.
Reggie
Trust me I am not out of my depth here. Although I bow down to your weight of wickets and club loyalty here. Do you not see the point I am trying to discuss here as lovely a guy as Paul is?
Dan - I'm too old, cynical & grumpy to really worry what people, apart from my immediate family, think about me.
