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paul
why would a club agree not to bring an overseas player in if they are within the home office regulations and also the ncu regs. the home office rules have been about for years I'm led to believe. maybe the clubs that have agreed to ban pros this year have something to hide
Ed,
Would seem the Common Sense approach. Otherwise you be looking at three chairmen in jail and £20k fines when there are a few 'random tip offs' given to the border forces.
Seems extreme! But can guarantee if only 3 clubs proceed with a pro is that it will happen.
NCU need to show leadership and common sense on the issue. Not right to risk it, when no club is going to be disadvantaged by stopping pros playing in section 1.
Whereas, 7 clubs would be disadvantaged. Makes no sense, and it will lead to 'tip offs'.
This isn't a threat by any means, but why wouldn't clubs do that? They are being disadvantaged, and 3 clubs would be breaking the law of the country.
From what I'm led to believe 7 of the 10 section 1 clubs have agreed to proceed with no pros this season.
Armagh, Donaghcloney and Lurgan are resisting this.
I hope the NCU respects the 2 thirds majority and prevents a section 1 club from having pros for this coming season.
I appreciate the benefits they can have off the field. But on the field you will see a complete flip in the league. And those teams heavily reliant on their pro the last decade will be highlighted.
There must be cumalativily hundreds of thousands of debt between section 1 and 2 clubs. Time for common sense! Trust your youth and your home grown players.
Ed...
Paul,
2 thirds of the majority is required at the AGM not just Section 1. Also, despite worthy of intent, it is the delegates who make decisions at the AGM not the NCU. However, if the Premier clubs could be canvassed and perhaps abstain it might be possible. After all, it doesn't affect them.
To save all the hassle of pros why not ban them from playing altogether save money and we would find out how good teams really are without the hired gun or in some cases all the hired guns
Hear! Hear! Paul in Bangor
Does this basically suggests then that any section 1 club bringing in an overseas will be breaking the law?
What is the NCU stance on the matter?
Re: VISA implications for professionals
Paul,
Section 1 clubs - and, maybe, some Premier League clubs - may find themselves between a rock and a hard place.
The ECB and the Home Office now define a professional as anyone who currently derives, has in the past derived, or will in the future derive any sort of living from cricket, whether coaching or playing. This likely includes - although the wording is ambiguous - anyone who has ever played U19 representative cricket in a foreign country.
Such 'professionals' can only be brought into the country under a Tier 5 Creative & Sporting VISA. The problem is that the only cricketers eligible for such a VISA are current first-class cricketers, who are ineligible to play in Section One.
I hope that helps, but I fear that it won't,
Michael
with the new pro regulations coming into play is now not the perfect opportunity to ban the overseas pro from section 1 and below ?
Taito, It's good news.
Section 1 sides can't pay anyone who 'holidays' here.
Think of all the money that will save!
I think you can be sure there'll be a few boys watching with their whistle to their lips.
Could just create a surge in the employment of locals of course.
Re: Taito
If any club needs information or advice regarding overseas players below the Premier League, please feel free to contact me on 07980 514186 or rbellccc@aol.com
Re Taito
Interested to see the response to this, I'm sure you have read the article on cricket Europe north wests page
http://www.cricketeurope.com/DATABASE/ARTICLES2017/articles/000029/002900.shtml
If applied to NCU this would mean an overseas player could play section 1 or below just not be paid for playing or coaching. Not sure how this will be policed but the original message from NCU said clubs chairpersons would be liable for fines.
Hope I'm not getting anything wrong as applies to the NCU and really not sure how Irish/UK passport holders affected.
I know some of the section 1 clubs are getting together to discuss the issue but does anyone know for sure how the new visa regulations affect the signing of pros for section 1 clubs?
If only poor old McGinty knew he had such a versatile and fiendishly clever goat he would be poor no more!
He could sell it on for a king's ransom to all these gullible 'suits' with money burning a hole in their deep pockets as the next big name to sign
for their club ?
Dear knows I can see it happening, fact is often stranger than fiction
and good old McGinty will be laughing all the way to the bank!!!
( somebody tell him if they see him before me )
Sitting here at Tillisburn Roundabout with the Belmont Billionaires and the Holywood Millionaires on either side I'm thinking of the old Stealers Wheel song:
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right...........
So much $$$ and £££ flying overhead that air traffic control at GB-BCA are working 25 hours a day.
But I'm asking myself the question...
What happens to these two great old clubs when the @rse falls out of the insurance business or the Royal Bank of Holywood goes belly up????
'And I'm stuck in the middle with you'
Word has it that Lord Lucan seen riding Shergar up round the back of Slemish last night. Maybe John could confirm?
