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Andy,
From your responce, I take it then that the answer to my query regards the calling of a wide ball, is purely at the discretion of the umpire.

Although I have another little irksome problem that has caused me some difficultly in sleeping lately ?

During a match earlier this season, I was umpiring at square-leg, our Skipper was batting and was bowled by a full -toss, the ball skimming the top of the stumps and removing the bails.

Off he had to go, but later on I was confronted by some of our 'wiser' non-playing supporters and told I should have called 'no-ball', indeed the Captain himself later queried by judgement and wondered why I had not called 'no-ball'!

My point is...the assumption was the ball was to high on the full ! But how could it have been, when the ball actually hit the wicket ?

i would just like to echo alfies comment and although i wasnt there i would like to thank neil and lurgan for their efforts in getting the game played on saturday.
Lurgan are a proud club and there was never any doubt that they would want a win to finish the season.

I would like to thank Lurgan Cricket Club, and in particular Neil Hunter, for their efforts to get th match played on Saturday.

Vic - I had the pleasure of standing with a colleague from the North-West recently and, before the match, he had expressed some concerns about the interpretation of the "wide" in NCU senior cricket. At the end of the game he was a convert to our practice in that bowlers accept the decision. In other jurisdictions I understand that problems with bowlers arise regarding the calling of "wides" such as "how wide was it?", "was it wider than the one you called 3 overs ago?" etc.
I note the concerns of Mr Williamson about the Lurgan game. Had he a wee "spot bet" on the result!? As someone who was unfortunate to be both Waringstown & Lurgan on Saturday rather than enjoying the sun in "Bullfast" (sic) I would describe the conditions at Pollock Park that I saw at 3:30, despite the best efforts of the guys on the ground, were "unsuitable" verging on the "dangerous".

Jon

Thanks for your comments, your thoughts are much appreciated.

As for Stephen Williamson, I see you had another go at Lurgan and the umpires on the Cricket Europe Website.

My brother is a bit more refined than me in his reply but its like this. Say something constructive otherwise dont go to print.

I am sure everyone who is reading your pathetic dribble will realise that whoever you are and whatever club you represent it is obvious that you have a very BIG CHIP on your shoulder.

To be honest are a very sad individual.

Is there a 'clear & cut' ruling on the calling of a wide ball, when it pitches on leg stump and moves (or spins) away down legside ?
Or is it up to the descretion of the umpire at the time ?

Personnally, I would be inclined to allow such a delivery to stand as it initially pitches in line and therefore the batsman has a chance to play at it.

Also it takes a fair amount of skill and practise to be able to bowl a cricket-ball and be able to make it move or spin away like that and this should not be discouraged by the 'calling' of a wide ball, although if it pitches outside legstump and misses the batsman's pads, then it is obviously a wide ball !

Neil
You did well to 'hold your tongue'. I think its a massive statement shown by Lurgan on the field that they intended to play the game properly, not that any of us had any doubts. As I said in an earlier post, Lurgan are a top club and will not be playing 'whoevers available'. Credit to you guys! Its a pity the rain ruined it.

So - no problem then to get the same team out, win the toss and bat again?

Steven Williamson

Whoever you are and whatever club you come from its quite simple, if you want to say something constructive on this forum please do so.

You slagged my club Lurgan on 7th September. I was disgusted as it was a slur on us.

We did our best to play today but when we were 110 for 0 at 25 overs, four massive showers wrecked a days cricket.
So much for your prediction.

If you ask the Downpatrick players, they will tell you that we put a massive effort in to play this game.

You are just an absolute disgrace not only to yourself but if you belong to a club they would be ashamed of you.

If someone gave you a dig in the mouth, that is what you deserve for what you said.

Shame on you

Thanks Stuart

Clarence,

Re:Senior Cup names.

The Cregagh players christian name, from 1993, you were looking for would have been Brian Robinson.

Tony,
Raman Lamba (North Down) 203no v Queen's 1st round 1987.
Best bowling Billy Lavery (Cregagh) 10 for 39 v North Down 2nd round 1955. (Cregagh lost the game!)
Regards,
Clarence

Clarence

who has hit the highest individual score in a senior cup match ?

Hi Vic,
It looks like it will be early next year as right now we are fine-tuning details covering every senior cup game. Huge task. Some great assistance given by former players like Jim Irvine (Cregagh)n and Wilson Scott (Cliftonville/Woodvale) with names over 60 years ago. These guys have terrific memories.
Good bedtime reading for next year!
Best wishes,
Clarence

Fair enough Clarence, did'nt realise our Jim had achieved over 50 runs in the Challenge-cup.

Although in my defence, pre 1994 I wasn't around Victoria C.C. infact until then I had never played the game before, so my knowledge prior to that year is zilsh !

Still, looking foward to getting my hands on a copy of your new book, when's it been released for publication ?