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David Norman Vanburn Heaney

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27th Sep 2008

ND V CSNICC
Fantastic game of cricket at The Green today.
At 60 odd for 6 CSN were dead and buried, but as the day progressed batting got a bit easier as you would expect. Stevie Dyer's 106 in the circumstances was outstanding, genuine cricket shots going to all parts, and he did not deserve to be on the losing side after such an innings. Equally outstanding, if not quite as spectacular, was North Down's opening partnership. One or two close LBW decisions apart, neither Joe Montomery nor Ryan Haire gave a chance until they were out, this against the most potent seam attack in the League. Ryan's 80 was worth a hundred in any other circumstances, and Joe's 40 in support was crucial. Timi, (despite having had nothing to eat all day)saw North Down home in style after a brief hiccup when Joe, Ryan, and then Sutherland and Coetzee departed.
Best team on the day won this one, and it is hard to call which is the better side over the season.
Robin - nice to know that my mortgage is safe (North Down having won the toss and inserted CSN). Also, I think you misinterpreted my earlier comments regarding complacency - I was just asking the question, and I have never had any doubt about your own motivation. You do not need me or anyone else to give you added incentives!
Good luck to both sides on Sunday.

Paul Stafford

Londonderry

27th Sep 2008

Ivan
The NCU does take a firm line with its rule book, voiding matches and deducting points.

The problem is the rule book itself. Neither players or umpires appear to understand it and that is where all the problems are coming from. It needs a serious overhaul as it is causing serious embarrassment to everyone, not least the NCU.

ivan mc combe

Muckamore

27th Sep 2008

With all this stupid negative talk about matches not starting on time, the right number of overs not being played, bowlers bowling too many overs, teams losing points for taking too long to bowl overs etc etc does that tell us there is something fundemental wrong with our game and the administration of it at club level and NCU level.
Is the rule book too complex ?
Are the fines ( either monetary or otherwise ) too soft ?
Does nobody really care ?
This end of season farce seems to go on from yesr to year. If you were just a cricket fan or a sponsor would you want to turn up at grounds to find the teams had decided not to play or turn up and see a game finished in a one sided farce. I think this is all contributing to the slow death of our game.
When the IFA decided that Portadown hadn't played by the rules in terms of entry to the new Premier League they sood by the decision leaving one of the top clubs in the country to fight there way back. That certainly sent out a "you don't mess with us message ". Is it time the NCU adapted a tough line. It might be preferable to watching the game die.

Gareth McCarter

The Mall

26th Sep 2008

People should look to do their talking and make their results on the field of play rather than clutching at straws and regulations at this stage of the season. It's all a little bit sad.

Roger Bell

Carrickfergus

26th Sep 2008

Only counted two IF's in my reply to Alan Bryans (IF that's his real name)

Alan Bryans

Belfast

26th Sep 2008

Roger - IF, IF, IF, - Too many IFs - especially the one "IF the Rules are applied"!!!!
That's one that shouldn't be in there.

Taito - you could check the scorecards of all the other matches - a few more 'voided' games will change the run-rates. Though I'm sure someone is already sniffing through them.

Roger Bell

Carrickfergus

26th Sep 2008

Re: Alan Bryans

It's not up to me to declare it void, so I can't say it WILL be, but as I said, if it started at 2.45 and was pre-arranged to start at that time, if the rules are applied, it most definitely SHOULD be.

Roger Bell

Carrickfergus

26th Sep 2008

That's correct Taito, you're learning without reading the rule book! Apparently CI would have to lose today by a margin of around 340 runs to be relegated in any case!

Alan Bryans

Belfast

26th Sep 2008

Roger Bell - I assume you meant to say WILL be declared void?

Sauce for the Goose and all that!

taito

work

26th Sep 2008

if the game is void, would that not mean that CI stay up anyway with no points being awarded to either side? This would not affect run rates surely?

Roger Bell

Carrickfergus

26th Sep 2008

The latest pre-arranged starting time for matches in September is 2.30 pm, so if a match has been pre-arranged for a later starting time and started at that later time it should be declared void

taito

work

26th Sep 2008

Alan, i have never read an NCU rule book in my life and am not about to start now, especially when our season is over.

Not sure what game you are talking about starting at 2.45 today??

Good luck to all the teams involved over the weekend

Alan Bryans

Belfast

26th Sep 2008

Taito - sounds like you need to keep reading the Rules. I was recently told that 'they are all in there you know'!
While you're reading check this one out.

Where in the NCU Match 2 Regulations is provision made to allow a game to start at 2.45pm and be of 30 overs duration?
Rule 3.1 '..the latest start time shall be 2.30pm'
In the past couple of years Lurgan v Instonians plus a couple of Section 2 matches were voided for these sort of 'arrangements'.
If I'm missing a loophole tucked away in the Rules please let me know otherwise boys you are wasting your time today - Match Void!

Neale

Sunny Portadown

26th Sep 2008

Just a gentle windup Robin.

2006? One loss? Winning the league?

If ND do win the title - can we expect to see a plethora of ND supporters on the various websites bemoaning the fact that the outcome will have been decided "in the committee room" and not on the field of play. I seem to remember ND were somewhat disapproving of this course. I did receive a number of phonecalls and e-mails on this point a couple of years ago.

Great match in prospect tomorrow, hope you get the weather and game it deserves. It is with a heavy heart I accept that the two best teams in the league are playing the "decider". There's always next year!

Wayne Horwood

Work

26th Sep 2008

Robin - if you check out league table on NCI archives it says ND lost 8 games that year which is where I got info. http://www.cricketeurope4.net/NORTHERN/DATABASE/2006/LEAGUES/11.shtml. I see on front page it says league shared so must be an error on the site.

It should be a good game tomorrow and I look forward to a pint or 2 afterwards.

It would be good if other folk on this forum used their own names instead of stirring.